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March 08, 2007

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sharon wortman farnham

I love what you wrote you are truly a good person. I like good people it is my belief that their are good people in every country on earth. They are not of one color or race that love it's very self is handed down through the generations all over the world. That the single most important thing we do while we are alive is to love other people and by reading you I can see you agree with me .

Greg T.

Yobie,

FWIW, when thinking of good, evil, and reflecting on same and torture I can't do better than recall VADM Stockdale's commentary, it’s worth the read …

http://www.usna.edu/Ethics/Publications/Stoicism2.pdf

The loud mouths of our venial and ignorant culture (specifically the writers and producer of Saturday Night Live) made a laughing stock of him after the Quale and Gore debate of 1992.

That says a lot about just how lost we are.

Pax,
GT

PS - We haven’t done anything to the charmers in Gitmo we don’t do to our own in SERE training.

greg t

Yobie,

An item I came across recently reminded me of your query on the nature of good and evil.

Perhaps you could have a look at this short interview with Francis Collins: http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0702/voices.html

Cheers!,
GT

Jamie Frank

It's amazing how people who pretend to know something about these topics turn out to be the most lousy human beings. William Flesch is the least altruistic and the least helpful person in the world. Heroism could not be farther from his personal and professional behavior. He is a coward. Just warning you about using his words because he is a hypocrite. Good people cannot learn a thing from him, except to shun him and what he professes.

FR

Yobie,
Another philosophical quote on "goodness" that sums up a lot:
"Es gibt nichts Gutes, ausser man tut es." (There is nothing good, unless you do it.) by German 20th century writer Erich Kaestner.
Namaste

Michael Eigen

Thanks for quoting my letter to the NY Times on evolutionary challenge. The sense of goodness goes along with another telltale sense related to it: a sense of horror.
We are horrified by travesties against goodness. It's as if we have a double sense, double nuclei: one which feels perversely triumphant when it subverts goodness by a will to dominance (I call it the "heh-heh devil") and a sense of horror at the triumph of this will. This horror has a double role. Initial horror at traumas to goodness paralyze, shock, stymie us. But gradually as we recover and come to ourselves once more, we are horrified at the "heh-heh devil's" victory.

In Feeling Matters I summed it this way: "Wounds hide in disbelief. We can't believe this happened, is happening, that such things can be. The traumatizing aspect of power counts on the time lapse between disbelief and horror, between the horror that leads to disbelief, and the horror that awakens realization of one's condition."

Michael Eigen

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